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09 Jan 2010 21:01 #44 by jpmillar
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Hi fellow members of group 2
I have posted my information at this site and I have had the DNA Test done using
my brother. I had the full markers done. This shows that I match a number of people
in Group 2. How do I get in touch with others who have the same markers as I do and
what is the next step toward understanding what these results mean? So far, I have little
information for all the DNA research that has been done. As long as I have gone this far, I would like to use the data to my advantage. Iknow how to do regular research but
DNA research is just not clear at all!!! My kit number is 152000.

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10 Jan 2010 13:25 #45 by NancyKiser
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Hi, Joan,

This is Nancy Kiser, volunteer administrator of the Phillips DNA project. We will forward your message to all of the members of Group 2 to make sure everyone sees it. Hopefully, some of them will respond.

Your brother actually matches everyone in Group 2, but he matches some closer than others. Your brother descends from Reuben Clementine Phillips who died in Anson Co NC in 1781, as do two other members of Group 2.

Here is some general information about the DNA of Group 2. This group belongs to the Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype, which is the most common DNA signature in Western Europe and the British Isles. Because it is so common, it has been impossible thus far to pinpoint exactly where it originated, but a lot of research is being done right now to try to differentiate between different branches. Most of the new research is being done on a specific type of DNA called SNPs.

Group 2 is our largest family group with over 30 members. Many members can trace their Phillips lines back to Maryland. Three different branches can be identified through DNA: the Philomen branch, the Reuben branch, and the London/Mississippi branch. The Philomen branch can be distinguished by the value of 14 for DYS442 while the Reuben branch has a value of 13 for DYS442. Your brother belongs to the Reuben branch. The London/Mississippi branch can be identified by the value of 15 for DYS19, 30 for DYS449 and 10 for DYS460. I call this branch the London/Mississippi branch because one of the members is a British man whose Phillips line traces back to London and the other two members have roots in Mississippi.

I am hoping that someone in Group 2 will step forward and take a leadership role in analyzing the DNA of the group and correlating the DNA with the known genealogy of the various branches of the family. It would be helpful if that person already has a deep knowledge of the genealogy of Group 2. We can train him in DNA analysis. If anyone wants to volunteer to do that, please let us know.

Best regards,
Nancy Kiser

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14 Jan 2010 14:24 #46 by cyphillips
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I am a member of the Philemon Phillips branch.

Philemon Phillips was the second generation from the emigrant John Phillips who came to the Eastern Shore of Maryland from Cornwall in 1672.

I can trace this lineage through the Parish records in Cornwall back to Gwinear, West Penwith, Cornwall in the 1540's. This is the date Henry VIII decreed that Parishes henceforth would keep records--before then there are no records.

I rely on my yDNA to go further back and this shows that the Philemon Phillips branch comes from the Beaker people, a Bronze Age culture. The Beaker people were traders and while there is no consensus, it appears that they came to Britain from "green" Spain--the north coast along the Bay of Biscay. Before this date, there is some evidence that the Beakers were first at Vila Nova de Sao Pedro, this in northwestern Portugal.

Gwinear is east of the Hayle River, which leads inland from the Bristol Channel/Irish Sea and was a Bronze Age trade route from the copper mines in Ireland to the tin mines in Cornwall, and then on to St. Michael's Mount--east of Penzance, a point where copper, tin and bronze (the combined result) were traded to the Phoenicians, among others.

My electronic mail address is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..

Cy Phillips

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